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of low-hanging fruit, right? totally voluntary thing. i mean who could be opposed to this? the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to vo
that into your browser what you find is you land on the nra home page. you get redirected to the national rifle association, to the opposite side of the gun reform argument. and that is because organizing for action failed to register their own natural domain names when they launched. the website tech president noticed this on monday. organizing for action failed to get organizingforaction.net, organizingforaction.org or organizingforaction.com. so all of those sites have been swooped by republicans and nra supporters. seriously? yeah. come on now, wow. but in the department of clouds and silver linings, if these embarrassing early fails from supposedly the greatest political geniuses on earth, if these failures are kind of a cloud when it comes to the prospects for gun reform, around this cloud is also a silver lining, and her name is debbie halvorson. debbie halvorson is a democrat from illinois. she used to serve as majority of the state senate and then spent two years in congress. but now that jesse jackson jr. has resigned, debbie halvorson is one of many democrats who have thrown their ha
of the nra and they are joined by tens of millions much supporters throughout the country. it's on behalf of those millions of decent hard working law-abiding citizens that i'm here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearings is what should america do about gun violence? we believe the answer to that question is to be honest about what works and honest about what doesn't work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works and nra has a long and proud history of doing exactly that. our child safety program told 25 million young children if they see a gun they should do four things, stop, don't touch it, leave the area and call an adult. as a result of this and other private sector programs, fatal firearms accidents are at the lowest level in 100 years. the nra has over 80,000 certified instructors who teach our military personnel and law enforcement officers and hundreds and thousands of other men and women how to savely use firearms. we do more and spend more than anyone else on teaching safe and responsible gun ownership. we join the nation in sorrow over the
to president obama by next tuesday. right now, they're holding what could be a showdown meeting with the nra and other gun owner groups. it comes after the nra's president lashed out at president obama in a new internet radio interview. >> i think they're being disingenuous. i think they have seen this as an opportunity to go after the 2nd amendment which they have wanted to do for years. >>> also breaking, the atlantic pastor to deliver the benediction at president obama's second term inauguration is announcing to withdraw from the ceremony amid questions of an anti-gay sermon he gave in the mid-'90s. >> if you look at the counsel of the word of the god, you come quickly to the conclusion that homosexuality is not an alternate lifestyle. it is not just a sexual preference. it is not gay. but homosexuality is sin. >> the presidential inaugural committee issued a statement saying, quote, we were not aware of pastor giglio's past comments at the time of his collection and they don't reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this inaugural. before we get to vi
taking on the head of nra. wayne la pierre. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows for the sales? >> if you are a dealer, that's already the law. >> that's not my question. i'm not trying to play games here. if you could, just answer my question. >> i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately that it does any good to extend the law to private sales in collectors. >> worry all due respect that was not the question asked. >> i think it is the answer. we have to get in the real world on what works and doesn't work. my problem with background checks is you are never going to get criminals to go through several background checks. >> mr. la pierre, that's the point. the criminals won't purchase the guns because there will be a background check that stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. it's basic. >> i think you missed -- >> let there be order. please wait. i said earlier, there will be order. >> joining me now from washington is connecticut senator richard blumenthal who said as a member of the judiciary committee, sena
for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. >> you missed the point completely. and i think it is basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> let there be order. >> i think you're missing it. >> let there be more. >> if chairman patrick leahy pressed lapierre. >> if you're a dealer, that is already the law. >> please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could just answer the question. >> rights demand responsibility. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame. >> americans are looking to us for solutions and for action. >> this time must be different. >> the senate judiciary committee today held the first senate hearing on gun and ammunition control, in the aftermath of the massacre of 20 first graders and six women educators at sandy hook elementary school. ba
the nra head had changed his mind on closing gun show loopholes. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows for sales of weapons? >> if you're a dealer, that's already a law. >> that's not my question, please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could, it would help, just answer my question. >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now, unfortunately, that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobbyists and collectors. >> so, you do not support mandatory background checks at all in instances at gun shows? >> we do not, because the fact is, the law right now is a failure the way it's working. >> howard wilson, 9 in 10 americans support background checks. what planet is wayne lapierre on? >> well, he's clearly representing the gun lobby and the leadership of the gun lobby, which is many respects out of sync and out of membership of the nra. the polling we've done and the mayor have done shows members of the nra, rank and file members, gun owners, parents, support many of the reasonable checks that people are talk
not been as welcoming. nra chief wayne lapierre who's expressed some sympathy for the victims also told the senate he has no interest in collaborating even on laws that restrict the gun access of convicted criminals or the mentally unstable. lapierre resit rated that the nra still opposes basic background check rules. that puts him at odds with the constituency he claims to represent. nine in ten gun owners support background checks. >> let's be honest. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> many policy makers, however, object to that logic which is basically an argument for scrapping post of the penal code. and the top cop from baltimore county pushed back on the nra's view. >> the best way to stop a bad guy from getting a gun in the first place is a good background check. >> while all the senators examined for preventing gun violence, news of another shooting was reported this afternoon. three people were shot at a business center in phoenix. and the suspect currently remains at large. it's another reminder that any action or inaction
insight into that fascinating meeting today at the white house between vice president biden and the nra. what can the vice president, what can the white house reasonably expect to get out of the nra today? >> the nra is going to go in there with a conciliatory face. they're being smart. they're sending not their top lobbyist but an official who has worked with biden over the years, worked with him in the '90s in the senate, is actually friends with him from the delaware beach, jim baker, the nra's number two, but he's coming with a very hard message. the nra told me that in the past 18 days, their paid memberships have gone up 100,000. they've gone from 4.1 million to 4.2 million. and they tell me that before this debate is over, they want to get to 5 million. so the nra sees this fight as a growth opportunity. willie, it's $25 a year, you get a free camo duffel bag with that. and we're told that jim baker, the nra lobbyist, is going to tell vice president biden we're willing to discuss, talk to you about any possible constructive solution, but here's the kicker, we listen to people bey
to get it. at today's hearing, the head of the nra actually argued we don't need any new gun laws. >> proposing more gun laws while failing to enforce the thousands we already have? it's not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> not a serious solution to reducing crime. we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that.
, the nra has come to the white house. >> the gun debate is raging. >> later i meet with the nra. >> freedom is not a handgun on the hip of every teacher. >> work it into the prom them. enchantment under the siege. >> no one needs ten bullets to kill a deer. >> that cheesy grin. >> little 6-year-old kids riddled with bullet holes. >> that joe biden just can't wipe off his face. >> president barack obama is considering taking executive action aimed at limiting your second amendment rights. >> could only be to take guns away from people. >> i don't quite understand why everybody would be afraid. >> it has been enough. >> the nra, which wants to be feared and respected, is not respected and should no longer be feared. >> i agree with wane lapierre, you, sir, are [ bleep ] in the head. ♪ >> another hectic day in washington and just ahead we'll have more on the president's cabinet reshuffle, including the nomination of jack lew to lead the treasury department. but, first, it is target tuesday. that's the day when vice president joe biden says he'll present his recommendations on preventing gun
. feels like membership. >>> in the wake of newtown, the nra's wayne lapierre, the philosopher behind the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, focused his gimmlet eye on the entertainment industry. >> a thousand music videos, and you all know this, portray life as a joke, and they play murder, portray murder, as a way of life. and then they all have the nerve to call it entertainment. but is that what it really is? isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography? >> last night, the gun lobby's chief wordsmith directed his criticism towards president obama and his inaugural message. we will discuss coming up next. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb
the gun owners and the nra to come and make their case as well. >> walmart will, indeed, attend joe biden's task force meetings. >> the president and i are determined to take action. >> assault weapons are the drunk driving in a prohibition debate. >> the governor is prospected to propose a ban. >> i'm convinced we can affect the well being of millions of americans. >> there's more holes in these laws than a piece of swiss cheese. >> every once in awhile something wakens the conscience of a country. ♪ >>> with an end of month deadline fast approaching, this week could mark a pivotal moment in the effort to curb gun violence in america. today vice president joe biden began a series of meetings hosting victims, groups, and gun safety organizations at the white house. referring to the massacre of innocent children in newtown, connecticut, the vice president said this is now a moral issue. >> seeing those and learning of those young children not only being shot but riddled with bullets just -- it's a -- every once in awhile there's something that awakens the conscience of a the country. >>
to give up the two guns that we have locked in a safe at home. what we do want is what the majority of nra members and other americans want: responsible changes in our laws to require responsible gun ownership and reduce gun violence." taking the argument beyond gunowners versus nongunowner, taking the argument beyond absolutist gun anarchy versus a complete gun ban, this turn away from that kind of binary nonsense is the kind of turn in the conversation that typically signifies that there might be movement ahead, that people are getting real about maybe actually getting something done. at the same time on the same day, on the same anniversary, another overture today from roxanna green. the mother of 9-year-old christina taylor green who was killed in the tucson shooting two years ago. she appears in an ad that appeared in seven cities today including washington, d.c. and tucson. this ad is paid for by the mayors against illegal guns action fund. but the thing i find striking about it is that it is not just an issue ad to try to get people riled up or even to get people thinking about this
's not right. it's designed to put people on the spot. >>> playing offense. the nra fights back against the president. >> he's more than willing to demonize his opponents, silence his critics, and slur the nra. >> our special guest, susan o z eisenhower taking on the web ad about the obama daughters. >>> and surprise, even bo obama gets into the act as the first family greets unsuspecting tourists at the white house. with, in fact, a fist bump from the commander in chief. >>> and good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. a busy day here, secretary clinton final facing tough questions from senate republicans about benghazi. >> i'm glad that you're accepting responsibility. i think that ultimately with your leaving you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and i really mean that. had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you from your post. >> well, joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and nbc's capitol hil
that father. wayne lapierre of the nra will be going to the white house, sorry, to the senate judiciary committee this week. what do you think of the reaction of these lobbyists to a father whose child has been murdered? >> well, leaving aside the fact that the hecklers have no idea what they're talking about in the sense that the second amendment in no way restricts the outlawing of assault weapons, this has to be a new low in the debate. the idea that you would desecrate the memory of the victims of newtown and insult their families. this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of those who wanted to pass the assault weapons ban was to get wi
school shootings, the nra has released a video. the same group that blamed the violent video games for the massacre in newtown. >>> and scott brown's political future, more observers saying he won't run for senate. and as i said, corey booker, who has announced his intention to run for senator in new jersey. the problem is he may have to run against fellow democrat and current senator franken lautenberg, as far as we can tell, they agree on just about everything. corey booker will answer steve kornacki's questions and will get tonight's last word. ♪ ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. . >>> so newark mayor cory booker has a problem, he wants to run for senate. the problem is there is currently an incumbent democratic senator in the seat he wants to run for. he wants to respect that senator, he hopes that that senator, who happens to be 88 years old, will announce his retirement. that has not happened yet. so how does cory booker run and not run
. >> guns and videos. will vice president biden get anywhere with the nra and hollywood today? >> the point i'm trying to make to you is that we realize this requires all the stake holders to give us their best ideas with how we deal with what is at the outset a complicated problem. a complicated did, no single answer. >> this manufacture should win every single award that a movie could win. do you think it will win every single award? >> despite all the buzz, the academy disagreed, snubbing director favorites tom hooper, we know affleck, quinton tarn tino, and catherine bigelow. >> president obama is sticking with his trusted chief of staff for arguably the most important position in his second term cabinet, given the challenges ahead. what's the reaction from the markets from foreign capitol and from jack lew as treasury nominee. u.s. economics editor for "the economist," and senior economics reporter steve leaseman. steve, first to you. what are the markets saying? what is jack lew's reputation in wall street and what do you see coming forward with debt negotiations? >> i think this appo
are compiling it all and all the rest of the members. prar. >> the nra is sending a lobbyist and the nations's largest retailer of guns admitted it is underestimating the expectation to attend the meeting. it did under estimated it and back tracked the decision to participate. peter alexander joins us from the white house. peter, has the white house elaborated on vice president joe biden's comment on executive action? >> it's a good question and i finished a conversation with the president of the brady campaign against gun violence. i said did you learn anything more about what the action could look like? what could it look like? the white house or at least the vice president with more than 20 people in the room did not list any specific actions that could take place. that's one thing we are all hanging on here at the white house. to find out not just what the president may propose in terms of comprehensive reform that would require and need to go through congress, but what he could do today in the absence of congress, we are waiting to find out what that might be. >> joining us now is a dem
think with every bushmaster that is sold, the nra ought to give coupons to "the book of eli" and get "the road," which is a great book. of course, zombies, people eating people, end of the world-type stuff. >> okay. so we will get to this ridiculous testimony on capitol hill as well as some of the powerful testimony in just a moment. i want to do these other stories first. you have to stay with me here. come on, now. >> they had a bushmaster. they tried to eat them, lock and load. >> what do i do? >> he almost died in the driveway. he almost -- denzel almost died, if he had a bushmaster or anyone -- a rocket launcher -- >> come here, now. it's all right. >> have you seen "the book of eli"? >> i have. it's a great underrated movie. >> you know what else i saw? i just saw it. denzel, man, "flight." >> that's good. that's good. flying upside down. >> there are good movies this year. >> flying upside down. >> including -- >> you know -- >> okay. >> the stewardess had a bushmaster, she could have shot him before he got on the plane. >> now i'm going to do the top story. cut his mike. toda
to be in the final set of proposals that go to the president despite all reports to the controversy. the nra president who met with vice president biden yesterday is drawing a hard line on assault weapons. >> we don't think that a ban on so-called assault weapons, which hasn't worked in the past, is going to work this time. we think manufacture those are feel good proposals and what we need to do is get to the question of why this is happening and what can be done about it. >> congressman tom ridge joins me now. this issue, what to do about guns. you in 1994 as a member of congress, you were just telling me, you voted for the assault weapons ban just days before the republican primary you were running for governor. how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to c
could be a very difficult meeting tomorrow at the white house. the nra association ceo wayne lapierre, is sending the director, the lobbyist for nra's wing to represent the lobbying group in a meeting with the vice president. the president also in attendance, and there will be representatives from walmart, which first declined to attend the meeting due to what they absurdly called a "scheduling conflict." they released a letter, saying knowing our leaders couldn't be there, we shared our perspective. we under estimated the expectation to attend the meeting on thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate. we take this issue very seriously and are committed to staying engaged in this discussion, as the administration and congress work toward a consensus on the right path forward. joining me now is the democratic senator from connecticut, richard blumenthal, who will soon take action on a bill. tell us first of all about the bill you intend to introduce. >> the bill i intend to introduce really has to be seen as part of a comprehensive set of measure
to gun control as we noted, vice president is going to meet this week with the nra that made news just being noted a matter of hours ago. it's to try to create more of that pressure. the president has made it very clear that not only did he win this election but said that the republicans obviously have a struggling brand, this wlous is communicated so perhaps more campaign-style events where the president was in michigan, he was in pennsylvania, he was just across the river in virginia, here as well. perhaps gabby giffords by his side or some of the survivors from newtown. i think that's some of the ways they believe to add pressure to bring across the republicans to not be an obstruction to him being able to accomplish some of those policies specifically on gun control and also trying to use some of those democrats like a-rated democrats from the nra, joe manchin, obviously, bob casey of pennsylvania, both may be able to add to that pressure specifically as it speaks to the issue of gun control. >> david, i want to talk to you about women and not in a brent musberger sort of way but a
and galvanizing support to overcome the nra and other entrenched interests, which no doubt, no question will fight them, make no mistake, there will be a fight. but as you said, the centerpiece really is a comprehensive program that has to include the background checks. i propose background checks on ammunition purchases as well as extended background checks on firearms purchases so as to cover that 40% of private sales and gun show sales that are not now covered and a comprehensive program of preventing gun violence has support from the majority of americans. we need to make that support focused on washington, d.c. so our congressional representativ representatives, whether in the senate or the house, cannot escape the brunt of that opinion. >> senator murphy, let me turn to you for a moment. you represented newtown as newtown's congressman. now as senator you represent the entire state of connecticut as their senator. connecticut is a small state, but it is a diverse state. it is both diverse in terms of urban and rural areas. it's diverse in terms of its population. and in terms of its politica
what the nra has been doing and i wish they had listen to the majority of their members that are saying we should have universal background checks. an awful lot of them are saying i don't need a large magazine. that's not what i hunt for. i have a gun home to protect my family. we're not taking any of that away. but there's still -- if you read the blogs and everything, i mean, what's being put out there is so far from the truth. but when you think about it, you know, what we're trying to do is holistically, we're trying to look at the guns that cause the most damage, the large magazines which obviously once you go over that 15, 20, 30, 40, up to 100, they say, well, that's taking away our right, but why did we ban machine guns? that's legal by the supreme court. i still go back to the supreme court which they seem to be ignoring right now, the nr a. they don't even want to listen to their own people in the supreme court saying that the municipalities and the sats have the right to make laws to protect their citizens. >> let's go to ron reagan on these thoughts. i want you to watch some
on the democratic side who are running in many different directions. and the nra is a formidable opponent. >> it's interesting. that's a very important key here. you know, michael bloomberg sort of doing this. you have a group with ties to move on to doing that. white house during their thing. the nra sticking to plan. >> absolutely. of all the groups the only one that's really been able to galvanize their base of support is the nra. everyone else seems to be fractured and in pockets. the more that those voices out there can gal vanize the people behind some movement that supports the ultimate gain -- >> i hear you. don't underestimate the newtown families. >> i agree. >> 9/11 victims' families were powerful political force. >> i agree. >> newtown families could become a very powerful force. shameless plug time. shira. >> my northwestern wildcats for winning their first bowl game in 64 years. >> if it wasn't for northwestern the big 10 -- >> i never thought anyone would say that sentence. >> how about that? >> i'm shameless plugging my husband's grandma is -- her birthday is coming up this weeke
at him pretty hard about those statements. where do you see this going from here? >> i think the nra is marginalizing itself daily with the statements they're making and probably making it easier for senate democrats to act. i spoke with a senior member of the house who said to me that this is going to have to start in the senate. that this personal believed that you could pass a pretty decent gun control measure in the house if the senate acted first. >> let's go back to senator feinstein. >> designed originally for the military to kill large numbers of people in close combat. are replicated for civilian use. they fall into the hands one way or another, of grievance killers, of gangs, of those who are mentally unstable or ill. they are sold out of trunks and back-seats of automobiles in cities as well as gun shows with no questions asked. massacres have taken place in businesses, law practices, malls, movie theaters, and especially schools. these massacres don't seem to stop. they continue on. columbine, virginia tech, aurora, tucson, oak creek. a common thread in these shootings is
deaths in the world and in the parts of the country that listen most to the nra, namely the american south, we have the highest rate of gun deaths in the country. so there's a direct correlation between more guns, loser gun laws, and more deaths. the nra doesn't care about that because, of course, all they care about is selling more product. they represent the product sellers which is why they oppose anything that would interrupt sales. >> right. maria, t teresa, mr. lapierre responded to the subject of background checks. >> standing in line and filling out a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork just so a grandfather can give a grandson a christmas gift. >> so, maria teresa, we all accept a grandfather has a right to give his grandson certain types of guns as a gift if he wishes, but what about the same right the child has to going to school without being hit by 11 bulletses from a military-style assault weapon. i guess that's not a absolute right in the same way, is it? >> i think he's being disingenuous with his membership. 74% of members believe in criminal background checks. recognizi
of the nra and the money that they contribute to members and the domination by republicans on the house side who will not let it get to the floor? >> well, listen, those are all things that are certainly out there, and anybody that ever underestimates the nra don't kid yourself. they are extremely powerful. what i'm saying is newtown did change because the american people have responded to it overwhelmingly. here we are 47 days after the shooting, and we're still talking about it. that's how deeply it's affected everybody. it's going to be up to the american people to be very honest with you on where we go. saturday there's going to be the million moms walking against gun violence across the country. we have more groups than we've ever seen before stepping up and saying how can we help? it's really a matter of organizing and even in the white house getting out there almost like a campaign and educating the american people on really telling them what we're trying to do, not talking away the rights of someone to own a gun. this past week we had several hearings, and we had gun owners. we had h
against gun manufacturers and was a huge handout to the nra. that bill only passed because donald rumsfeld's pentagon weigh ed in and said the pentagon need this had to protect the gun industry. what chuck hagel can do is help undo the damage the pentagon has done by pushing through a new memorandum that would say this really isn't something that the pentagon wants. obama will need his whole cabinet onboard to get this done. chuck hagel is someone we don't think about who could be a leader on gun control but could be instrumental in making sure gun control is something that happens. >> what would be the net effect of a memorandum like that? >> it would be a huge step forward for the pentagon in undoing what i call the unholy alliance between the pentagon and the nra. when this bill was passed wayne lapierre came out and said this is one of the biggest pro-gun legislation accomplishments in 20 years, and he was right. it did a huge amount of damage, the abilities of cities and straights across the country to hold gun companies accountable. if hagel goes forward and says, look, what the pent
for stricting gun control laws and the head of the nra looks on. good morning, i'm bill karins and this is "way too early." we're glad you're up with us on this thursday, last day of january, 31st. we have a lot to talk about, including john kerry's final farewell in the senate after three decades of service. we'll show you his emotional speech. plus, israel launches a rare strike inside the syrian border. coming up, a live report on what they were targeting and why. first, our top story here at 5:30 a.m. eastern time in new york city. we begin with the first congressional hearing on gun control since the shootings in newtown. gabby giffords who survived a shooting two years ago made an appearance before the senate judiciary committee reading off a page of handwritten prepared remarks, she urged congress to act now. >> too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but th
. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying li ining things is chon sense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america will fill in the marketplace and not the nra. >> joy evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. now is the time for america to get laser focused on how the republicans are trying to steal the next election. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, especially in urban areas. >> forget policy. if you can't win it, just go ahead and rig it. the gop moves to steal elections. first stop? virginia. david corn and charnelle herring tell us if the dirty move could work. the right still can't handle hillary. >> she obviously has an enduring media. >> so the king of the sunday shows bites
a representative from the nra. joining me now is msnbc's enjoy reid and patricia maze who helped to stop the tucson shooter, by wrestling a wave of bullets before he could reload. patricia, i want to start with you tonight. one thing that the nra talks about tonight, you can't stop all of these killings. we know that we can't stop all of them. for me, the question is how easy do we want to make it for them? and one of those questions is, how big are the magazines that we want the mass shooters to have access to? and as you know from your own personal experience the only reason that shooting stopped was because he had to reload. >> that is right, there is absolutely no reason for the general population to have that kind of fire capacity. or that type of gun, the assault weapons. there is no reason for that. now our shooter had a glock. so that doesn't fall into that category, i don't believe. but the high capacity magazines, if he had only had ten bullets in that first magazine, there probably would not be as many people injured or dead. >> yeah, patricia, i have said i blame the shooter for the fir
? is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the get go is that law-abiding citizens aren't the problem. adam lanza's mother is a law-abiding gun owner, and she continued to buy guns for her son for christmas and birthdays knowing that he had mental challenges. i mean, law-abiding citizens are part of the problem if they permit access of guns to go to people who should not have them. let's listen to just a moment of mark kelly. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinqu
to testify as well as the nra, which has resisted gun control measures that have been talked about. so as this conversation moves forward, how do we continue to have a thoughtful and logical national debate on gun control and apply these solutions on curbing gun violence in major cities and smaller cities and rural ones, but as you say, with everyone not being on the same page, this really does demonstrate that this is not a one-sized fits all answer to this. >> i think, personally, what we have to do is stop calling it gun control. we're trying to control violence. and that has many different facets to it. there's mental health issues, there's databases we need access to, there's record checks that need to be done. there's reporting stolen weapons, doctors being involved, and sharing information between schools, police, mental health professionals. so we need to stop calling it a gun control debate. that's what my personal opinion is, because like i said, when people hear that, they're on one side or the other. and we shouldn't be. we shouldn't be on any side or the other. we should a
and that emotional momentum may have slowed a little bit. we also see the nra. they're very powerful. still powerful. and they have a lot of allies in congress, not just among the republicans, but also with some democrats. the new senator from north dakota who was out over the weekend certainly doesn't seem open to a lot of these proposals. so it's going to be a legislative challenge for the white house to push forward whatever proposals they develop and get those passed in congress. >> are there people in the house and senate who have sort of cred on both sides they think they can use. we have heard a number of gun owners, people who have ratings with the nra saying things like you don't need an assault weapon to go duck hunting. >> you know, there are some. i think we're going to see them emerge and play sort of a leadership role once these proposals are developed. the president himself is going to try to make a public relations push to generate public support out in the country for these proposals. the white house is talking with some people who are advisers to michael bloomberg, the mayor of new
newtown, then that unearths to the nra's benefit. what appears in the vice president's commission appears to be doing is looking at ways to mobilize the anger and frustration about what happened in newtown. >> let me ask you this quickly. i asked you earlier, the washington post, your paper's report, says that president obama wouldn't have to get congressional approval for some of the measures. "possibilities include changes in federal mental health programs and modernization of gun trafficking efforts by the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives. >> right. and so, you know, again, these are recommend daxs that we're hearing about from a commission that isn't exactly holding public hearings. i think what we need to do is wait and see what they propose. and then, also, how they propose the president is able to do these things. i think the question will be how? what's the legal basis for the president to do the sings that they say they can do on his own. >> well, we'll be watching. jonathan, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> coming up, hillary clinton
about at least the strategy from the gop regarding gun control legislation. >> well, the nra and the republicans who support them, this is always their strategy is basically to slow walk any gun legislation -- >> but you and i know that at the end of the year we were told that things changed. newtown changed everything and wayne lappier going out and they said that the game changed after those lives were lost so the strategy of wait won't work. >> well, is that true or not? >> yeah. >> i think we will see if the pressure keeps up or fades. i think frankly a lot of the public sentiment has faded. a lot of public pressure has faded and the longer legislators wait to about on this the longer and the degree to which the president chooses to press it, whether he chooses to make it part of the inaugural or state of the union remarks is a point, too. this is whether he has the political will to keep it on the radar. >> "the washington post" is reporting a more ambitious gun control legislation by the president. he wants the ideas before the state of the union and a part of that. i r
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